The Papal Pyroantics : Playing With Fire

18 Mar

This day certainly will not count as one of the best days of my life. In the morning, I learnt that one of my online friends who was honestly caring and thoughtful individual has passed away. Later in the day, I received a not-so-good-news about work, and found myself still hopelessly angry about something in my past. I am certainly worried about my family’s future, yet still, just now I stumbled into something that made me worry about the world in general.

This piece of news from MSNBC reported that The Pope has issued a statement where he reportedly made his first explicit statement about HIV / AIDS. And I must say that what he said failed to impress me. If anything, it even got me feeling disturbed and a bit angered.

On his way to Africa on Tuesday the Pope said that condoms were not the answer in the continent’s fight against HIV. “You can’t resolve it with the distribution of condoms,” the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane headed to Yaounde, Cameroon, where he will begin a seven-day pilgrimage on the continent. “On the contrary, it increases the problem.”

In all fairness, he did say that The Vatican encourages sexual abstinence to fight the spread of the disease. In itself, sexual abstinence is a very good thing, if one can indeed keep himself / herself abstaining from sex. But I feel that’s a one very big “if”. What His Holiness failed to comprehend, is the fact that his statement certainly has tremendous potential power to defer the use of condoms among the general population.

Now let us pause for a moment and combine those two conditions. If we can safely assume that the population in general will still engage in sex no matter what anyone might say ( for obvious valid purpose of procreation or just recreation ); and if a lot of people then abhor the use of condoms because a certain religious authority has stated that it only increases the problems ; I shudder to think what the future might bring to this planet in the context of HIV / AIDS. In fact, my fingers were trembling as I typed this post. This is a blatant display of ignorance of what The Papal Throne means. He is a person of authority, and his words hold very big influence over millions of people on this planet. To issue a statement with such dangerous possible implications is very foolish, – regardless of all the best intentions that he had ( in issuing it ).

God, I don’t know. One of my previous posts was written exactly to protest the similar kind of statement made by a certain organization in Indonesia, – now the head of one of the biggest institutionalized religion on earth said the same thing. If I call the said post by the title of “Ideology or Idiocy”, then indeed I am sorry to say that The Pope is walking that very fine hypothetical line between Ideology and Idiocy. He is playing with fire, – and if he continues to do so, it’s going to be one big fire he would not enjoy to try to tame.

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18 Responses to “The Papal Pyroantics : Playing With Fire”

  1. Nindya March 18, 2009 at 7:01 am #

    I only have one question at mind:

    “Kok jadi ikut-ikutan yang kemarin sih?” 😐

  2. Nindya March 18, 2009 at 7:01 am #

    I only have one question at mind:

    “Kok jadi ikut-ikutan yang kemarin sih?” 😐

  3. keep it real March 18, 2009 at 7:29 am #

    I think your assumption is out of the context to what the Pope have had said about using condoms. By promoting and allowing condoms to be use so carelessly and freely, it will promote to use condom as a free pass, and not allowing for each person to be responsible for their own action.

    If you assume that the population in general will still engage in sex no matter what.. then… why would this matter to what the pope have had said? they will do it anyway right?

    The context of refraining in using condoms to those people who didnt know or in between the fence when they perform sexual activity outside marriage.
    In general people should promote sexual abstinence FIRST to understand the sanctity of human body and sexuality before performing sex.
    Unlike promoting condoms first, meaning it’s ok to have sex, and not to worry about the consequences, because with this mentality it will devalue the human body. Why is it important to treat sex as a valuable gift, not recreation purposes?

    Because we are human with conscience and have moral obligation to choose what is right and wrong, unlike an animal, who reacted only by their instinct. So, just because we all can have sex, doesn’t mean that we have to do it(although we tend to act like animal, when it comes to sex. lol). abstinence IS the best way to do it, beside condoms doesn’t guarantee protect the user from contracting STD’s…
    To think that condom is a safe protection, is a false assurance that mislead people beacuse condoms can break, and STD’s is small enough to penetrate through the condoms.

  4. keep it real March 18, 2009 at 7:29 am #

    I think your assumption is out of the context to what the Pope have had said about using condoms. By promoting and allowing condoms to be use so carelessly and freely, it will promote to use condom as a free pass, and not allowing for each person to be responsible for their own action.

    If you assume that the population in general will still engage in sex no matter what.. then… why would this matter to what the pope have had said? they will do it anyway right?

    The context of refraining in using condoms to those people who didnt know or in between the fence when they perform sexual activity outside marriage.
    In general people should promote sexual abstinence FIRST to understand the sanctity of human body and sexuality before performing sex.
    Unlike promoting condoms first, meaning it’s ok to have sex, and not to worry about the consequences, because with this mentality it will devalue the human body. Why is it important to treat sex as a valuable gift, not recreation purposes?

    Because we are human with conscience and have moral obligation to choose what is right and wrong, unlike an animal, who reacted only by their instinct. So, just because we all can have sex, doesn’t mean that we have to do it(although we tend to act like animal, when it comes to sex. lol). abstinence IS the best way to do it, beside condoms doesn’t guarantee protect the user from contracting STD’s…
    To think that condom is a safe protection, is a false assurance that mislead people beacuse condoms can break, and STD’s is small enough to penetrate through the condoms.

  5. NotAMeanGirl March 18, 2009 at 7:58 am #

    While I agree we are responsible for our own actions. The Pope is not a person trained to know the MEDICAL and PRACTICAL applications of condom use to help prevent the transfer of the HIV/AIDS virus. He is, or SHOULD BE, speaking strictly from a moral and ROMAN CATHOLIC standpoint.

    Roman Catholics are NOT supposed to use birth control, according to the church standards set forth by the Vatican. THAT is where his position on this comes from.

    It’s blatantly self serving and foolish in the context of preventing the spread of this virus and STD’s.

    The Pope… he needs to shut it.

  6. NotAMeanGirl March 18, 2009 at 7:58 am #

    While I agree we are responsible for our own actions. The Pope is not a person trained to know the MEDICAL and PRACTICAL applications of condom use to help prevent the transfer of the HIV/AIDS virus. He is, or SHOULD BE, speaking strictly from a moral and ROMAN CATHOLIC standpoint.

    Roman Catholics are NOT supposed to use birth control, according to the church standards set forth by the Vatican. THAT is where his position on this comes from.

    It’s blatantly self serving and foolish in the context of preventing the spread of this virus and STD’s.

    The Pope… he needs to shut it.

  7. unquote March 18, 2009 at 8:04 am #

    @keep it real

    I understand all of your concern about taking this out of the context. Indeed, if you read my post carefully, I never dispute the validity of abstinence as one of the best ways to prevent the spreading of HIV / AIDS or other STDs. And of course, that also goes to whatever good intentions behind his sayings.

    What I am questioning about is the IMPLICATIONS of his words. Nothing more, and nothing less. The POTENTIAL result ( notice the word “Potential” ) of his words is disturbing. What if people then stop using condoms, and fail to commit to sexual abstinence, as he proposed ?

    The problem of HIV / AIDS is an imminent danger to the world, and it should be treated as such. All I meant is that every office of authority needs to weigh the potential results of its statement, because indeed it could be grievous. Please understand that I have nothing against The Pope or Catholicism, – yet it is precisely in this context I was speaking about : in understanding that HIV / AIDS is not something trivial to be taken lightly.

    And as for his statement that “On the contrary, it ( the use of condoms ) increases the problem”, well at best, I find it questionable. In what way does the use of condoms actually INCREASE the rate of HIV / AIDS ? By making people feel justified to engage in free sex ( or “devaluing their bodies”, in your words ), and thus having sex at a much higher rate and frequency than before ? See, this is not a convincing argument at all, because even if it happens, they will still use condoms anyway ( which happens to be a scientifically-proven method to stop the spreading of HIV / AIDS ).

    Lastly, I don’t know about other STDs, but with HIV / AIDS, scientific research has long shown that it is an effective barrier for the virus. As for the story that it is smaller than the condom pores and can pass through the latex, it is a myth and nothing more than a myth. You don’t have to take my word on this. Google it, and you can find a lot of evidence of this fact.

    I thank you for your comment. I hope you enjoy the post and discussing it with me 🙂

  8. unquote March 18, 2009 at 8:04 am #

    @keep it real

    I understand all of your concern about taking this out of the context. Indeed, if you read my post carefully, I never dispute the validity of abstinence as one of the best ways to prevent the spreading of HIV / AIDS or other STDs. And of course, that also goes to whatever good intentions behind his sayings.

    What I am questioning about is the IMPLICATIONS of his words. Nothing more, and nothing less. The POTENTIAL result ( notice the word “Potential” ) of his words is disturbing. What if people then stop using condoms, and fail to commit to sexual abstinence, as he proposed ?

    The problem of HIV / AIDS is an imminent danger to the world, and it should be treated as such. All I meant is that every office of authority needs to weigh the potential results of its statement, because indeed it could be grievous. Please understand that I have nothing against The Pope or Catholicism, – yet it is precisely in this context I was speaking about : in understanding that HIV / AIDS is not something trivial to be taken lightly.

    And as for his statement that “On the contrary, it ( the use of condoms ) increases the problem”, well at best, I find it questionable. In what way does the use of condoms actually INCREASE the rate of HIV / AIDS ? By making people feel justified to engage in free sex ( or “devaluing their bodies”, in your words ), and thus having sex at a much higher rate and frequency than before ? See, this is not a convincing argument at all, because even if it happens, they will still use condoms anyway ( which happens to be a scientifically-proven method to stop the spreading of HIV / AIDS ).

    Lastly, I don’t know about other STDs, but with HIV / AIDS, scientific research has long shown that it is an effective barrier for the virus. As for the story that it is smaller than the condom pores and can pass through the latex, it is a myth and nothing more than a myth. You don’t have to take my word on this. Google it, and you can find a lot of evidence of this fact.

    I thank you for your comment. I hope you enjoy the post and discussing it with me 🙂

  9. shinte galeshka March 18, 2009 at 8:14 am #

    @keep it real
    Check your fact, dear.

    The rate of condom break is around 1 per million these days.

    And the myth that STD is small enough to penetrate the condoms is false because the even thought STD virus is small enough to pass the condom pores they can not transmit themselves without the body fluid.

    Hope it’s clear enough for you to understand, otherwise look it up on Mr. Fajar blog archive, he gave a better explanation once.

    As for the other thing you’ve said what do you suggest then, let people suffer and dies for a mistake they make? Is it part of the Christian values that the Pope wish to convey.

    Every live matter dear, not to be wasted on a single mistake due to some people believe.

    PS. Sorry for the rough word here and there …

  10. shinte galeshka March 18, 2009 at 8:14 am #

    @keep it real
    Check your fact, dear.

    The rate of condom break is around 1 per million these days.

    And the myth that STD is small enough to penetrate the condoms is false because the even thought STD virus is small enough to pass the condom pores they can not transmit themselves without the body fluid.

    Hope it’s clear enough for you to understand, otherwise look it up on Mr. Fajar blog archive, he gave a better explanation once.

    As for the other thing you’ve said what do you suggest then, let people suffer and dies for a mistake they make? Is it part of the Christian values that the Pope wish to convey.

    Every live matter dear, not to be wasted on a single mistake due to some people believe.

    PS. Sorry for the rough word here and there …

  11. unquote March 18, 2009 at 8:14 am #

    @ Not A Mean Girl,

    Thank you for your comment. You captured what I feel about his perfectly in your post. I don’t question the moral or philosophical standpoint of the issue, as it is indeed his domain. But I am saddened by what his words might mean in the medical and practical context of preventing the HIV / AIDS from spreading wildly.

    I hope you are well, Ms. Lemmons. God bless your soul 🙂

  12. unquote March 18, 2009 at 8:14 am #

    @ Not A Mean Girl,

    Thank you for your comment. You captured what I feel about his perfectly in your post. I don’t question the moral or philosophical standpoint of the issue, as it is indeed his domain. But I am saddened by what his words might mean in the medical and practical context of preventing the HIV / AIDS from spreading wildly.

    I hope you are well, Ms. Lemmons. God bless your soul 🙂

  13. unquote March 18, 2009 at 8:19 am #

    @shinte galeshka,

    If we had more people like you, the world would have won this fight against HIV / AIDS long ago. Kudos, Sir ! I rest my case.. 🙂

  14. unquote March 18, 2009 at 8:19 am #

    @shinte galeshka,

    If we had more people like you, the world would have won this fight against HIV / AIDS long ago. Kudos, Sir ! I rest my case.. 🙂

  15. shinte galeshka March 18, 2009 at 11:10 am #

    I’m sorry to hear about your friend and your job situation too sir.

    and sorry for just strut in and make such a comment for @keep it real while there’s other issue in this post too.

    must learn to be more considerate too …

    thanks for the understanding sir 🙂

  16. shinte galeshka March 18, 2009 at 11:10 am #

    I’m sorry to hear about your friend and your job situation too sir.

    and sorry for just strut in and make such a comment for @keep it real while there’s other issue in this post too.

    must learn to be more considerate too …

    thanks for the understanding sir 🙂

  17. unquote March 18, 2009 at 11:27 am #

    @ shinte galeshka,

    Thanks for your thoughtful sympathy. And no, please don’t apologize. You are very much welcome here, and you’ll always be 🙂

  18. unquote March 18, 2009 at 11:27 am #

    @ shinte galeshka,

    Thanks for your thoughtful sympathy. And no, please don’t apologize. You are very much welcome here, and you’ll always be 🙂

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